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Topic: U.S. Unloading WMD in Iraq | Topic page views:
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JerseyBluEyz
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Northeast 1101 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 03-14-2004 02:37 PM
Hmmm! If this is true, maybe these will turn out to be the WMD that STILL have not been found in the 315 days since the War in Iraq began. http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=3/13/2004&Cat=4&Num=011 U.S. Unloading WMD in Iraq
TEHRAN (Mehr News Agency) – Over the past few days, in the wake of the bombings in Karbala and the ideological disputes that delayed the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution, there have been reports that U.S. forces have unloaded a large cargo of parts for constructing long-range missiles and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the southern ports of Iraq. A reliable source from the Iraqi Governing Council, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Mehr News Agency that U.S. forces, with the help of British forces stationed in southern Iraq, had made extensive efforts to conceal their actions. He added that the cargo was unloaded during the night as attention was still focused on the aftermath of the deadly bombings in Karbala and the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution. The source said that in order to avoid suspicion, ordinary cargo ships were used to download the cargo, which consisted of weapons produced in the 1980s and 1990s. He mentioned the fact that the United States had facilitated Iraq’s WMD program during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq and said that some of the weapons being downloaded are similar to those weapons, although international inspectors had announced Saddam Hussein’s Baath regime had destroyed all its WMD. The source went on to say that the rest of the weapons were probably transferred in vans to an unknown location somewhere in the vicinity of Basra overnight. “Most of these weapons are of Eastern European origin and some parts are from the former Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc. The U.S. obtained them through confiscations during sales of banned arms over the past two decades,” he said. This action comes as certain U.S. and Western officials have been pointing out the fact that no weapons of mass destruction have been discovered in Iraq and the issue of Saddam’s trial begins to take center stage. In addition, former chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix has emphasized that the U.S. and British intelligence agencies issued false reports on Iraq leading to the U.S. attack. Meanwhile, the suspicious death of weapons inspector David Kelly is also an unresolved issue in Britain. ------Occupation Forces Official Claims to Have No Information About Transfer of WMD to Iraq ------- A security official for the coalition forces in Iraq said that he has not received any information about the unloading of weapons of mass destruction in ports in southern Iraq. Shane Wolf told the Mehr News Agency that the occupation forces have received no reports on such events, but said he hoped that the coalition forces would find the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction one day. Coalition forces and inspectors have so far been unable to find any Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The U.S. invaded Iraq under the pretext that Iraq possessed a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction.

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boomhauer
New Member
Debary, FL, USA 7 posts, Mar 2004
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posted 03-15-2004 01:29 AM
this is really frightening,afterall, there is nothing more sound than the "tehran times" let me see if i understand this, you trust the "tehran times" more than the US gov'ment is this correct? 
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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe

Northeast 1101 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 03-15-2004 02:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by boomhauer: let me see if i understand this, you trust the "tehran times" more than the US gov'ment
If you notice I said: If this is true... If you're really asking me if I believe we went to war with Iraq because of WMD - no, I do not believe WMD existed in Iraq when we went to war. BTW, welcome to the board, I think!?!
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Bhang
This little brother is watching you

Iraq, Baghdad. 173 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-22-2004 07:33 AM
Hi Jersey!I remember talking about this awhile back. This IS very scary S***! We suggested that covert attempts would be made to plant WMD in Iraq and now we hear about it from a source in Iraq. With all the money to be made from oil in Iraq I'm sure that many people in the Iraqi Governing Council have already been bribed or belong to certin factions of the NWO, so to hear that a Council member has mentioned this raises an eyebrow. Between WMD and Osama Bin Laden, looks like this will make for a very interesting election year after all. ------------------ Third eye vision. 
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JerseyBluEyz
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Northeast 1101 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 04-15-2004 10:32 AM
Here is an update on the movement of the alleged WMD recently shipped into Iraq. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0413-02.htm Published on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 by the Mehr News Agency (Tehran, Iran) New Reports on U.S. Planting WMDs in Iraq BASRA -– Fifty days after the first reports that the U.S. forces were unloading weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in southern Iraq, new reports about the movement of these weapons have been disclosed. Sources in Iraq speculate that occupation forces are using the recent unrest in Iraq to divert attention from their surreptitious shipments of WMD into the country.
An Iraqi source close to the Basra Governor’s Office told the MNA that new information shows that a large part of the WMD, which was secretly brought to southern and western Iraq over the past month, are in containers falsely labeled as containers of the Maeresk shipping company and some consignments bearing the labels of organizations such as the Red Cross or the USAID in order to disguise them as relief shipments. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, added that Iraqi officials including forces loyal to the Iraqi Governing Council stationed in southern Iraq have been forbidden from inspecting or supervising the transportation of these consignments. He went on to say that the occupation forces have ordered Iraqi officials to forward any questions on the issue to the coalition forces. Even the officials of the international relief organizations have informed the Iraqi officials that they would only accept responsibility for relief shipments which have been registered and managed by their organizations. The Iraqi source also confirmed the report about suspicious trucks with fake Saudi and Jordanian license plates entering Iraq at night last week, stressing that the Saudi and Jordanian border guards did not attempt to inspect the trucks but simply delivered them to the U.S. and British forces stationed on Iraq’s borders. However, the source expressed ignorance whether the governments of Saudi Arabia and Jordan were aware of such movements. A professor of physics at Baghdad University also told the MNA correspondent that a group of his colleagues who are highly specialized in military, chemical and biological fields have been either bribed or threatened during the last weeks to provide written information on what they know about various programs and research centers and the possible storage of WMD equipment. The professor also said these people have been openly asked to confirm or deny the existence of research or related WMD equipment. A large number of these scientists, who are believed to be under the surveillance of U.S. intelligence operatives, have claimed that if they refuse to comply with this request, they may be killed or arrested on charges of concealing the truth if these weapons are found by the Bush administration in the future. He said that the Iraqi scientists believe their lives would be in danger if they decline to cooperate with the occupation forces, especially when they recall that senior U.S. officer Michael Peterson once said, “Iraqi scientists are at any case a threat to the U.S. administration, whether they talk or not.” A source close to the Iraqi Governing Council said, “In the meantime, many suspect containers disguised as fuel supplies have been moved about by some units of the U.S. special forces. The move has been carried out under heavy security measures. Also, there are unofficial reports that the containers held biological and bacteriological toxins in liquid form. It is possible that the news about the discovery of the WMDs would be announced later.” He also said that such mixtures had been used by the Saddam regime in the 1990s. The source added that some provocative actions such as the closure of Al-Hawza periodical by U.S. administrator Paul Bremer, the secret meetings between his envoys with some extremist groups who have no relations with the Iraqi Governing Council, the sudden upsurge in violence in central and southern Iraq, a number of activities which have stoked up the wrath of the prominent Shia clerics, and finally, the spate of kidnappings and the baseless charges against the Iranian charge d’affaires in Baghdad are providing the necessary smokescreen for the transportation of the WMD to their intended locations. He said they are quite aware that the White House in cooperation with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has directly tasked the Defense Department to hide these weapons. Given the recent scandals to the effect that the U.S. president was privy to the 9/11 plot, they might try to immediately announce the discovery of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in order to overshadow the scandals and prevent a further decline of Bush’s public opinion rating as the election approaches.

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Boomer Chick
Senior Member
Colorado 407 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 04-15-2004 11:12 AM
The neocon creeps! SH*T! I wouldn't doubt this at all! We all suspected this from day one! Time will tell as always and it will be soon! How many will cry "LIARS! LIARS!" I will! Thanks, JBE! 
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 5940 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-15-2004 11:18 AM
They already attempted this previously and FAILED. CIA and DoD Attempted To Plant WMDs in Iraq — and Failed
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001322.html

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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe

Northeast 1101 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 06-15-2004 10:50 AM
Are they STILL trying to bring the WMD into Iraq??? It's only been 1 year and 70(?) days - give or take a few days.  http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=6/15/2004&Cat=4&Num=020 U.S. Trucks Carrying Radioactive Materials Intercepted In Iraq-Kuwait Border
TEHRAN (MNA) -– The UAE-based daily Al-Khaleej reported on Monday that Kuwaiti tariff officials have intercepted a truck loaded with radioactive materials in the Iraq-Kuwait border. The daily quoted informed sources as saying that the radioactive control team from Kuwait’s Health Ministry discovered that one of the trucks belonging to the U.S.-led coalition forces was carrying heavy radioactive materials trucks. The trucks were headed for Iraq. The daily said that such materials could only enter a country when there is permission from related bodies while the materials were secretly being carried to Iraq. Security forces stressed that no contamination had been caused by the material. The MNA reported for the first time the coalition forces’ suspicious transfer of WMD parts from Kuwait to Southern Iraq by trucks. The possible presence of WMD in Iraq and its likely nuclear programs were the main U.S. pretext for attacking the country. However, their failure to find weapons of mass destruction in the country and the continuing turmoil in Iraq questioned the legitimacy of the U.S. war against Iraq and their presence in the country.

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skizz
Senior Member

usa 45 posts, Jun 2004
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posted 06-15-2004 12:25 PM
lil' georgie porgie must be getting desperate,and if this pans out i figure he will announce the finding about a month before the election, trying to get more pats on the back or pocket some votes from people who believe all his bull-sheet. heres to bush!
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JerseyBluEyz
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Northeast 1101 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 06-15-2004 05:47 PM
OMG! Bad monkey! LOLOL!!! I've got to tell you, I've been really enjoying the little graphic dudes you've been posting! 
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fortis
Senior Member
44 posts, May 2004
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posted 06-15-2004 06:08 PM
I can't comment on the truth of the report (though can you trust the Tehran Times more or less than Fox News. Tricky one. )Isn't it odd, though, that Kuwaiti customs officers (that's what I assume a tarrif official to be) searched the US convoy as it was leaving Kuwait. Aren't those folks normally only interested in stuff entering the country. Something doesn't quite ring true. 
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skizz
Senior Member

usa 45 posts, Jun 2004
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posted 06-16-2004 01:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz: OMG! Bad monkey! LOLOL!!! I've got to tell you, I've been really enjoying the little graphic dudes you've been posting!
sorry i was listening to the news at the time and bush came on and did his uhs and ohs speech.

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atfateshands
New Member

Edina, MN. USA 20 posts, May 2004
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posted 06-16-2004 03:56 PM
The Tehran Times? My suspicion is that this sounds an aweful lot like a great dis-information plan. Personally, Saddam knew we were coming years in advance and either buried those WMD so deep we'll never find them, or just dismantled them and moved them out of the country or sold them to terrorist groups. To me, this could be the single most brilliant thing Saddam ever did. I can all see it so clearly now. . . SADDAM: You suck, I hate the UN, they blow!!! I don't have any WMD, suck camel goat infidels!! THE US: Alright A-hole. . PUCKER UP, we're coming in!! SADDAM: Alright, but Mr. Bush, you going to look very toopid when your boys don't find any WMD!! SO BRING IT!! THE US: Errrrrrrrrr I guess he WAS right, millions of miles of sand and nothing?? Hmmmmmm WTF do we do now???? I guess we kinda look toopid huh? the single greatest feint in the history of the world, and we're all falling for it. LATERS BRAH
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skizz
Senior Member

usa 45 posts, Jun 2004
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posted 06-16-2004 04:27 PM
all this is, is the old saying " like father like son" i am prez' and the people don't like me, so lets start a war in Iraq. maybe the people will jump on my band wagon then. WMDs are a excuse by the Bush family to garner votes from people who are willing to believe the dribble that spews from their mouths. "Bush part 1" couldn't get the oil so his ne'er do well son says i can get us some oil, rig the election get me into office and i'll get it. well so far all he has managed to do is get alot of good people killed and all because he couldn't open the Alaskan frontier to his oil company. the only WMD they will find in Iraq, which was there last thanksgiving is lil' georgie porgie,they will find WMDs the next time he visits the troops and its called methyane gas which is what comes from his upper anal orifice. yes i beleive there were WMDs but when ya give alot of warning.it's like the health dept. giving 2 weeks notice you will be inspecting on such and such a day "hey we are clean". sorry but george bush the sequel is a bust also. "like father like son"
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fortis
Senior Member
44 posts, May 2004
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posted 06-17-2004 01:43 PM
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Kuwait sends back truck carrying radioactive material www.chinaview.cn 2004-06-13 17:03:20 KUWAIT CITY, June 13 (Xinhuanet) -- Kuwait refused to allow a radioactive material-bound truck to enter the country as demanded by the US army, Kuwait Times reported Sunday. Kuwaiti customs department on Thursday impounded four trucks coming from Iraq for suspicion that they were loaded with radioactive material. After checkup, three of them were found not containing any radioactive material, while the fourth was found to be carrying a container of highly radioactive substance. Customs officials refused to open the truck, and insisted that it should not move before American military personnel and Kuwaiti security officers arrive at the scene. The officials said the American army warned against opening the container and asked that it be allowed proceed, but they refused. Three of the four trucks were then released and the fourth one was sent out of Kuwait to where it came despite the US army's objections.
http://news3.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-06/13/content_1523130.htm So which do we trust? As I said in an earlier post it would make more sense for customs officers to search a vehicle coming into Kuwait from Iraq, than one leaving Kuwait for Iraq. This version of the story makes far more sense (though even this one may not be totally accurate.) If this story is the correct version of events, then it doesn't sound as if it shows nuclear material being smuggled into Iraq. 
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JerseyBluEyz
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Northeast 1101 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 05:34 PM
My article from Tehran Times (which also ran in every Middle East paper) reported on Tuesday, 6/15 that one truck (of several) was intercepted LEAVING Kuwait and headed for Iraq. This truck was verified as carrying radioactive material. Actual interception date was not disclosed.Your article from a Chinese paper reported on Sunday, 6/13 that Kuwait impounded 4 trucks coming INTO their country from Iraq on Thursday. One truck was verified as carrying radioactive substance. You ask - which article do we trust? Are you implying that the media might be biased? For shame!  For the time being, let’s trust both reports and consider they refer to the same incident. Let’s temporarily say that into Kuwait, out of Kuwait, is merely a technicality. This means that a Chinese paper (which is located much further away from the actual crime scene) reported on a suspicious event 3 days after it happened. And every Middle East paper reported the incident 5 days after the occurrence. It would then appear that China was quicker to report on the shenanigans of the U.S. before THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST!?! I find that a bit hard to swallow. I do not think for one moment that the Middle East would have sat on that story – they would have reported it quicker than we could blink an eye. We should remind ourselves at this time that they are very intelligent AND efficient in the Middle East. They can organize the events of 911, from an undisclosed CAVE on the other side of the world, all without worldwide Intelligence agencies getting wind of the operation!  On the other hand, if both reports are factual in all disclosed details, then the possibility exists that these are two separate instances. In that case, there could have been a convoy of trucks going in AND out of Kuwait for days. This might have alerted Kuwaiti border patrol and caused them to inspect military vehicles on their way in AND out of the country.  quote: Originally posted by fortis: This version of the story makes far more sense (though even this one may not be totally accurate.) If this story is the correct version of events, then it doesn't sound as if it shows nuclear material being smuggled into Iraq.
If your story IS right, then the radioactive material WAS being smuggled out of Iraq. Imagine that! This would prove that the neocons wanted to give Americans, and the rest of the world, further reason to complain about the nonexistence of WMD in Iraq AND that the war was a farce to begin with! Boy, those neocons sure are smart!  SOOOOO, does it make more sense that radioactive materials were going IN or OUT of Iraq? HMMMM? 
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