posted 03-20-2004 04:16 PM            

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The only positive aspect of chemtrails, as far as I can see, is that it appears to be killing more Americans than non-Americans.

This may be a reflection of the United Nations involvement, as evident in the IPCC posting that Reynolds put up as a banana skin for Gaiacomm to slip on,
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg3/index.htm

where the links between spraying and climate mitigation were explicit.

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(From the thread on the Arianna Online Forum)

"The only positive aspect of chemtrails, as far as I can see, is that it appears to be killing more Americans than non-Americans."

Nice.

I just wanted to be sure that everyone else saw this too.

posted 03-21-2004 09:23 AM               

WH

jayreynolds wrote:
I have an announcement to make. I am now willing to discuss why I have been forced to debunk "chemtrails", and what "payoff" I have received for doing so.

However, as I give, I also hope to receive, and so am willing to make my own personal revelations if and only after certain information heretofore undiclosed is exchanged.

'Sore', answer the following questions. When they are answered by you, categorically, honestly, and completely, I will reveal publicly to everyone on this board exactly what "payoff" I receive for debunking the "chemtrails" hoax.

Surely this is a fair and equitable trade you would be willing to make for such essential information?

I will be awaiting your answers, and urge your fellow chemmies to encourage your participation.
Jay
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If Reynolds wants to reveal after all these years why he has felt it his duty to tell lies about chemtrails/contrails, or for what other reason other than duty he has done so, I have no objection to this.

I have heard such confessions off the record from people belonging more to the social-engineering, geo-engineering, socialist-ecologist, United Nations, globalist school than to the self-professed conservative, patriotic rule-of-law school of thought to which Reynolds claims to belong.

If Reynolds wants to confess too, why not?

But to attach conditions to the confession, to suggest that only those of some level of scientific expertise are qualified to receive the confession....this is a type of would-be'wheeling-and-dealing' I have never seen before.

I do not agree that Gaiacomm is more of a nutcase than a person who can make such a proposal.

And I would ask Reynold's deadhead followers to note that your boss is proposing a deal which, if certain terms are satisfied, will motivate him to 'come clean'.

What are you going to say and do if and when he finally does reveal to the world his reasons for having lied about chemtrails/contrails?

posted 03-21-2004 11:37 AM            

His words sound just like the bait they are! He wrote nothing but a "trap of lies". You cannot read his words and apply the same meaning as if WE were saying them. Read them from a disinformant’s point of view. It’s quite sick actually.

He will turn around and say the “payoff” has been none. That he “received” personal satisfaction in helping to fight the belief or hoax in chemtrails. And that he kept the “disease” from spreading any further than it has through his diligence. He’ll make himself out to be the ultimate debunker hero.

posted 03-22-2004 11:32 AM            

I agree with you. Johnny Spray will never be honest. He is like an Elvis amongst the "Bunkers". Wanting the fame more than anything. With fame comes responsibility, and you know, deep down inside maybe Reynolds sometimes doubts his own steamrolling over blaring facts. It would be nice if someone like him starting thinking something is wrong, Just like Lulu and Seeker used to believe in Chemtrails, they are now "Bunkers", the opposite can happen. Though in Reynolds case, it is highly unlikely. How would we ever know he is telling the truth if in fact he is doubting himself?

posted 03-22-2004 12:57 PM            

The fact is you said what you said. I do not see any context that in that thread that can mitigate your expressed pleasure at the death of Americans.

Sure, JBE, he posts here, but look at Halva’s behavior when he does post. He reminds me of Moe Howard playing Hitler in a three stooges short.

posted 03-22-2004 02:19 PM            

After all, YOU hate me, Mech, halva, and others who question your corporate sponsored reality. Let's be realistic, and not so freakin' self-righteous.

If you look at posts, most of us simply state our opinions. It is the "Bunkers" who come in and call every name imaginable.

I will not speak for halva, but personally I would deal with a person like him anyday, and believe me halva and I have had our differences, over most of the spitters and hissers who call themselves Debunkers. There is one and only one debunker that I respect, and that is B1BLancer. We finally came to an agreement, and him and I get along quite well. Sometimes all it takes is one thing that two people have in common, that they really enjoy, and then people can learn to respect each other.

Look at FLKook and myself. I am called a "techno Pagan". SHe is a Christian. We try an be delicate, and in turn learn some things. Same thing with The Professor. We share a deep love of music, and you know what? We have become better people for it. after fighting for a whole year over a misunderstanding on both our parts.

As far as Americans getting killed at a higher rate from aerosols? If you don't believe they exist, why should that bother you? If halva said Blue Meanies from Globners are coming to wipe out the human race, would you worry?

posted 03-22-2004 02:35 PM               

Get out of old reflexes. They are not going to pay off any more.

posted 03-22-2004 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by halva:
Larson, as much as the American empire may have benefited in the 20th century from cultivating the habit of disconnection, it might benefit you as an ordinary person in the 20th century to start connecting.

Get out of old reflexes. They are not going to pay off any more.

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Maybe it is you that should join me in the 21st century.

posted 03-22-2004 11:25 PM            

Unlike some crude people who used to inhabit CTC, he'll never come out and say he will say "This town ain't big enough for the both of us", and issue a threat of bodily or financial harm.

He simply loves annoying people, and turning the tables on him is the only way to deal with him, or just treat him as the obnoxious Uncle or Brother-in-Law, that always comes to each family gathering, and is never nasty enough to get the crap beat out of him.

posted 03-22-2004 11:29 PM            

Unlike some crude people who used to inhabit CTC, he'll never come out and say he will say "This town ain't big enough for the both of us", and issue a threat of bodily or financial harm.

He simply loves annoying people, and turning the tables on him is the only way to deal with him, or just treat him as the obnoxious Uncle or Brother-in-Law, that always comes to each family gathering, and is never nasty enough to get the crap beat out of him.