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KNOW-THIS
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1015 posts, Jul 2003

posted 06-27-2004 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KNOW-THIS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=11108

Hitler becomes US campaign issue
11:57 AEST Sat Jun 26 2004


AFP - Adolph Hitler broke into the US presidential campaign with Democrats and Republicans trading charges over the use of the Nazi dictator's image in bitter attack ads.

The row broke out over a new television spot aired by President George W Bush's campaign that twice shows Hitler in a compendium of clips that brands White House challenger John Kerry and his Democratic allies a "coalition of the wide-eyed".

Kerry campaign spokesman Phil Singer issued a statement calling the images "remarkably insensitive" and "hateful," and adding, "The use of Adolph Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong".

"They are trying to convey a comparison between Senator Kerry and the Democrats and Hitler," Singer said, demanding that the Bush camp immediately pull the ads and issue an apology.

"The fact that George Bush thinks it's appropriate to use images of Adolph Hitler in his campaign raises serious questions about his fitness to spend another four years in the White House," the spokesman said.



But Bush campaign spokesman Terry Holt denied any intention to draw a direct line between Kerry and the head of the Third Reich and said the German's image came from attack ads run on the Democrat's behalf by the group MoveOn.org.

MoveOn.org quickly withdrew a spot linking Bush and Hitler, and the Kerry campaign said it had nothing to do with it. But Holt said the incident was proof that the Democrats had "taken political rhetoric to a new low".

In the Republican ad, Hitler's image is mixed with the angry faces of former vice president and presidential candidate Al Gore, filmmaker Michael Moore, congressman Richard Gephardt, former Vermont governor Howard Dean and Kerry, all fulminating about Bush.

The ad concludes with the words: "This is not time for pessimism and rage. It's a time for optimism, steady leadership and progress".


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Orwell knew
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45 posts, May 2004

posted 06-30-2004 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orwell knew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So was this Republican retaliation and a way to try and downplay the fact so many people around the world are comparing the Bush Cabal's antics to Hitler's?

Maybe it's just me but but I have to wonder about Bush attempting to go on the offensive and in shear desperation trying to associate Kerry or even funnier Moore with Hitler. Though I disagree with Moore on guns in general with his "Columbine" view, Bush IMO and this current Anti-Patriot, Anti-Freedom, Anti-Privacy, war-mongering, Empire-building, Innocent killing, out of control, bunch of Neo-Liberal-Wacko- Fascist- Billof Rights Hating Opportunistic Vultures are MUCH MUCH MUCH more in line with the Vision of TOTAL FULL SPECTRUM DOMINANCE Fascism than Moore or perhaps even Kerry might be. And while one might speculate about Kerry, BUSH and the Neo-CONS have SHOWN what their vision for the "New *American* century of Empire is and just who must pay the price to build it. I really hope someone well connected SUES these criminals for all the BILLIONS now unaccounted for and WASTED and SWINDLED from the American taxpayer and their children and their children just so the Bush/Cheney Machine and it's 'interests' both foreign and domestic could profit once yet again on the backs of those who die for their greedy "leaders".

WE have now moved into the age of Orwell so deeply I am not sure the "Republic" can ever be "restored". Though I am an independent and find no "heroes" (and don't look for any) in either of the two main parties I do think this latest bunch of "republicans" has taken the "republic" out of the name as much as most any Democrat ever has. I would love to see both FREEDOM loving Democrats and Republicans break of of their spiritually intellectially BANKRUPT parties and start a really SERIOUS third party that could shake the foundations of these Congressional Corpses posing as humanbeings.

SmT

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swamp gas
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Jersey City
1855 posts, Jun 2001

posted 06-30-2004 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even 3 parties would not be enough. Personally, I am more and more appreciating the Socialist Democracies of countries such as Denmark and The Netherlands, where 20+ parties are represented, and there are campaign laws in effect, so everybody has an equal share.

This is why America should:

1) Tighten the borders

2) Honor the Constitution

3) Stop Aid to Israel

4) Crash program for alternative fuels and cut out Middle East

5) Legalize Marijuana

6) Only sick, handicapped, and elderly get state aid. If you are healthy, you work or get nothing.

7) Vote by proxy

8) No corporate welfare. Companies are on their own. Government serves the individual citizen..PERIOD!

9) Overturn Patriot Act

10) Womyn and Men get paid the same for equal jobs

11) Respect all living creatures.

12) Put Art, Science, and physical fitness back in schools.

13) Abolish various 3-lettered government agencies.

14) Honor the institution of Marriage and Friendship. Let Gays marry too, for Pete's sake.

15) Put Gold back as standard, and abolish Fiat money system

16) Whatever we do... DO NOT lose our ability to "goof on the straights" as we used to say in the 60's, and still do.

Not necessarily in that order.

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shatoga
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1096 posts, Nov 2002

posted 06-30-2004 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honor the constitution and most of the rest of that list follows.
eg: It took an amendment to outlaw alcohol.
It took another to make it legal again.
No amendment outlaws marijuana, thus the gov't has exceeded it's Constitutional authority. (legal precedent)
Same for most alphabet agencies actions, etc..

Bush has caused millions worldwide to notice his actions and words have closely paralled those of Hitler.
eg:
Hitler's Enabling Act which gave him emergency dictatorial powers after the Reichstag fire was staged by elements in Hitler's own party.
Bush's USAPatriot Act gave him emergency dictatorial pwoers after the 9/11 events were staged by elements of Bush's party.

Hitler invaded weaker nations to impose German style democracy upon unwilling people.
This served to divert Germany's people from paying attention to what was happening at home.
Bush invaded weaker nations to impose American style democracy upon unwilling people.

IMHO/ The parallels are obvious to anyone outside Bush's party and even those within are seeing the truth.

Here in the deep south the neocons are increasingly being opposed by real Republicans who still support our Constitution.

Comparing Democrats to Nazis and Kerry to Hitler could easily backfire.
It's like the cast iron fry pan calling the teakettle black.

Bush campaign efforts are geared towards fooling those in his own party who have not yet realized the neocons are RINOs.

Republicans
In
Name
Only

We must all remember "Many fine decent people are Republicans." Pres. Bill Clinton 1996

It's time to stop fighting each other and unite.

According to the Bush campaign:
"Kerry would repeal the Patriot Act."
(campaign commercial that; 'Bush "approved of this message."'

>President Bush Calls for Renewing the USA PATRIOT Act< http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4107

That's enough to sway many people who would like to restore the Constitution.

(right from propaganda central: http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3913
>Take the Patriot Act. Kerry condemns it fiercely as the stuff of a "knock-in-the-night" police state....So...Kerry voted for the law..<
(back when it was not yet known it would result in our government spying on US citizens instead of fighting foreign terrorists, almost everybody supported the "pig-in-a-poke" that became such a monster in practice.
Now many know better and oppose the USAPatriot Act's unconstitutional extension of improper gov't authority into our lives.

IMHO The Hitler comparison is just more distraction to "fool some of the people all of the time." Lincoln


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